Kat works online with women who sell their creative or handmade products via Crafter Coach.
She helps these ladies navigate the most effective ways to use Etsy, Pinterest and other social media platforms.
Going over her questions, we discover new strategies that are a much better use of her time.
With a lot of training content set up for her members and her community, we walk her through adjusting her current tripwire (a product that should be converting sales into the membership) so that she is teaching her target audience to identify their own problems, in which the solution will be given once they are a part of the membership community.
We walk Kat through different strategies of how she can get her email subscribers into paying customers by setting up new offers every quarter as well as having more than one tripwire even if they joined her list a long time ago.
You will learn
- Importance of online training content.
- What is a tripwire?
- Why it’s important to not give away too much value in your tripwire products.
- How to manage your time better with your online business.
- Ways to automate your email sequences.
- Identify customers that are willing to spend money.
- What a nurture email sequence is.
- Goals of having a Facebook Group.
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JOCELYN: Hey y’all! On today’s podcast, we help Kat take her Etsy seller membership to the next level.
SHANE: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We’re your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams. Join us each week as we teach you how to flip your lifestyle upside-down by selling stuff online. Are you ready for something different? All right, let’s get started.
SHANE: What’s going on guys? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle Podcast. Great to be back with you again this week. Have an amazing Flip Your Life community member coming on the show today, someone that we’ve got to hang out with in person and just know really really well, she’s doing some great things and we’re going to help her take it to the next level and we are actually on a call to Australia today and it’s very early in the morning so we are so happy that she was able to wake up and be here. Our guest today is Kat Jarman. Kat welcome to the show.
KAT: Hey guys thanks for having me.
JOCELYN: Yes, we are super excited that you’re here. Kat and I are friends and we like to chat quite frequently so it’s nice to talk to you on voice today.
SHANE: Yeah, we do it a lot in Facebook and typing messages on our forums so it’s kind of good to be on to actually hear you today.
JOCELYN: Despite the major time difference. So welcome to the show and we’re going to start out by telling everybody what are this that you do online and anything else you would like for our listeners to know?
KAT: Okay, so I’m Kat. I work online at craftdecors.com and basically I worked with ladies that have creative or handmade products that they are trying to sell online or they want to sell online but perhaps they’re not quite sure what to do next or where to begin. So that’s where I come in. I help them navigate their way around, Etsy, or Pinterest, or Facebook and we worked out how they can most effectively use their time on their platforms so that they can start making more sales and build really cool businesses.
SHANE: And so the big thing is like, you’re working in a membership type community. You already got your membership setup, you already got your site ready to go so you bring people in and you do teach them from scratch or do you more look at what they’re doing and help them kind of take them to the next level by fixing what they are doing wrong? Which one is it or is it both?
KAT: It’s a little bit of both. A lot of my ladies, they have some Etsy shop already setup and they’re in the position where maybe they’ve made a few sales but it’s not quite having, I think a lot of demand and the impression that it would happen quite quickly and we all know that it doesn’t really work out that way so we just work out what they can do with a whole ahead of things as we are was and keywords and pricing and all that sort of thing to figure out how they can stop moving some of their products along.
SHANE: And do you have training videos in your community or is it just a community right out? Do you have some training in their or do you, is this mostly one on one?
KAT: I have heaps of training in there, Etsy training and Facebook and Pinterest and I’ve spent probably 18 months doing a lot of training videos.
SHANE: Awesome that is great.
JOCELYN: Alright that sounds good. I think that you have really great foundation—
JOCELYN: And it works out to help you to grow it further so what is your first question for us today?
KAT: So question number one, I have a 19-dollar tripwire product which is what I sell after a couple of eight miles when somebody opts in to my email list and it’s quite popular, it’s a ten-minute Etsy shop video review and they’re really great but it take me about 40 minutes to deliver each time somebody purchases this so as I start to sell more and more of this, I’m wondering if I should stop so cheaply as a tripwire our product at a different place that we something that’s a little bit hands on.
SHANE: One thing I want to say is that, a tripwire that’s like not converting membership is probably not a good trip wire even if it’s selling because the whole point—
SHANE: The point of the trip wire and this tripwire is cool because you’re really hands on and you’re kind of communicating with the person but the problem is you’re losing so much opportunity because they pay their 19-dollars and there’s no immediate upsell into membership because you have to deliver this thing and it’s going to take you time to do that and also to the tripwire cannot leave people like say sated. If I go, it’s like when you go to a really nice restaurant and you get this awesome dinner and then the person comes out and say hey, you want dessert? I mean how many times does anyone really get the dessert because you’re so full from the dinner that you really don’t need the dessert right there even though it might be awesome. So, you are doing the same thing here. You’re giving them this huge amazing cool review and giving them this awesome actionable thing to go and take often and fix but that’s going to take them a month and a half to even get through even though it’s only ten minutes long because you’re giving such good value. I think that you’re giving away too much in this tripwire. I think the idea of the tripwire maybe correct but I think you’re just, I think you’re way over delivering in this that’s why it’s not really converting memberships. Does that make sense?
KAT: Yeah, it makes perfect sense. Yeah.
SHANE: So what we probably think you should do in this specific case now what Jocelyn jump into this as well, is like, you really need to deliver this in a way, maybe this tripwire is like a bulleted checklist or a video that you create once and always use for your tripwire to help people audit their own Etsy shop when they can go to a process and identify the problems themselves but then they’re going to need to come to your community and you to get the solutions. That’s where the tripwire’s going to help you some more memberships.
KAT: That’s why I love because.
JOCELYN: Yeah, we talked about this a little bit before we get on the call and you know what you said there it actually makes a lot of sense to me to is that you don’t want to give them all the solutions especially fora1dollars I mean you’re given a lot of value for a 19 dollars and I think that that could be maybe like a 199 product—
SHANE: Yeah, that’s what it should be. That’s not a 19-dollar product for sure.
JOCELYN: That’s a really big deal what you’re giving to them so I do like what Shane was saying about teaching them trying to solve their problems that they already have. At the end, they might be like, oh well, I don’t know how to solve that.
SHANE: Kat has the answers.
JOCELYN: And in your video series, in this video you say at the end, hey, if you need some help figuring out what to do next, join us in the community.
SHANE: And this also goes back to, I know you use some of our emails marketing sequences unlike the tripwire here, if you didn’t get to them to quickly identify one major problem, like maybe you know that everybody got this really common problem or maybe you know there are three huge common problems and everybody’s got at least one of them when they come to you.so teach them how to identify those problems in this tripwire like I’ll help you find the three biggest problems that are making you from making money on Etsy. You teach them to go through their site and one of them is going to be like, oh wait, I’ve got that problem, wait, now what do I do? Then later on on your email sequence we’ve got that wow, unexpected bonus, the one that’s really cool, the one that’s like man this is I need to begin into the membership because if this is awesome I’ve got to do that. That could be maybe the thing where you’re like, hey, would you like to schedule a ten-minute review with me, you jump on maybe a live call and you convince them to join your membership. That’s the sales call at that point. You see what I’m saying?
KAT: So, way better use of time?
SHANE: Way better use of time because you can do, in 40 minutes, you could talk to four people and every four people, you convince one to join and we may even come up with a better solution for that thing where you’re not involved at all. It’s just the, maybe them, we deliver a 30-minute video that solves one of those problems that we helped them to identify.
JOCELYN: Yeah, I would like to see it be more automated and then you would send them an email with three links and say which of these three problems that you identify—
SHANE: Is your biggest problem.
JOCELYN: That’s being the biggest for you. They’ll click on one, then they get send out another path that says okay, why don’t I help you solve this one problem.
SHANE: Watch this video to solve one of the three biggest problems of the Etsy store and then you immediately upsell them into your membership. You’re not even involved. You’re not there anymore and it’s just constantly turning in new members.
JOCELYN: So, with that in mind I would actually maybe like to see this, be the checklist be a freebee to get them aware of the problem, have them click a which one was the biggest for you and they click it and then have the video be the tripwire.
SHANE: So basically you’re only solving one of the three no matter how it looks like now and because they’re going to click one of them and go down that path and no one’s going to be probably go back and click the other path. If either way they’re going to pay you for the video that solves their problem and then you’re going to move on and this is something we say to everybody when they’re automating those sequences to them. They’re maybe, you’ve, let’s say, you’ve identified the three biggest problems and you say, well, wait a minute, number three is not possible to solve without me getting involved, right? I need to help this person solve that problem, that is not something that should be in your automated sequence because you have to be involved that clearly identifies that piece of content as something that’s in the member area where you’re going to help people in your forums. If you go on to number four, what’s the fourth biggest problem? Oh that one I can’t solve any video for people. You see what I’m saying? So you’re only offering tripwires and you’re only offering unexpected bonuses that can be automated. Anything that involves you, they are paying a month, a year that I’m going to get you.
JOCELYN: Exactly, that’s what I would like to see in, I feel like that if you just change a few things, you already have the videos recorded right?
KAT: Yeah totally.
JOCELYN: So if you just change a few things and get them paying for those videos instead, that’s going to take your personal time out of it all a lot more and I think that’s going to drive sales for that membership even more.
SHANE: And this little 19-dollar thing that’s popular, I am positive that I would be willing to bet money that if I sat beside you and watch you do ten of these audits of these people that you source, I’m willing to bet that you go to the same checklist, the same process, the same thing each time to identify those problems that you’re going to help them with automate that, make that a process that they can do themselves to find the problems and then they already know where to get the solution because they name it. Two days later, they will get an email that says, hey, what did you find? Click for three links to see which one and that’s going to go to an actual tripwire they pay for and then they’re down, they finally go.
KAT: Yeah, that’s such a good idea. I often find that with date review I am literally going to get the exact same things and it doesn’t matter. It’s just a different Etsy shop every time but nine times out of ten they’re doing the exact same things that the other people were doing anyway so that’s such a good idea.
SHANE: And that’s how each one of those things you find is just an arm reaching out for a different customer or you have to do it in your email sequence like Jocelyn said is identify which customer goes with which tripwire, right? So, which solution do they need? Jocelyn does this on black Friday every year when she does this.
JOCELYN: And if they don’t choose one, then you send them down the one that you think is probably the number one.
SHANE: Exactly. Yeah, they just get whatever you get them or you have one that you’re pretty sure would help everybody and if they haven’t click on the other things you don’t just get that one next. You nurture them until they figure out exactly what they really need,
KAT: Yeah and you guys used a webber at one time, do you know if they would be out to handle that sort of thing or—
SHANE: There’s a manual to it though.
JOCELYN: You can’t do this type of thing on aweber, on mailchamp on the kind of more beginner solutions for like email service providers. It’s just a little bit more manual. You have to go in and you have to pull the list of people who clicked and then like reason the email out but there are ways to do it certainly and rumor has to that aweber is working on a target system.
SHANE: Yeah, they’re supposed to be upgrading it. Yeah, they’re supposed to be making it. It’s supposed to happen like first quarter that they’re going to switch it where you can start doing those things.
KAT: They do it late. I mean the beta group has filled what, they’ve got a new campaign system so I’m about to test that out and save—
JOCELYN: Yeah, that’s awesome.
KAT: I’m going to test it out on my tripwire actually. It’s a really good idea.
SHANE: Well, what we can do is we’re like, if you’re already in the beta system maybe you can show us some screen shots of what it kind of looks like or we can go into the forums of Flip Your Life and we’ll draw that out and I can draw it on a piece of paper and take a picture of what exactly it should look like and then you can just go build it in aweber basically.
KAT: That sounds amazing. That’s really cool.
SHANE: Very cool. So that’s, before we move on because I know your next two questions because you’ve already submitted them but like, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about the price of this tripwire to you. Some people are buying this tripwire and they’re not going on to membership, okay? I think that you have a filtering problem here with the price of this tripwire. A lot of people think a tripwire has to be really cheap, right? But I don’t think it needs to be. I think that maybe this kind of tripwire might need to be a little higher than 19 dollars. I think it’s probably going to have to be up around like 39-49 dollars for this tripwire because we really want to identify someone who’s willing to spend money to solve their problems here and 19 dollars is you know a trip to McDonalds or Maccas as you guys say down here. Maccas.
KAT: Maccas right.
SHANE: I think that in this case I would like for you to test a higher price tripwire then even your membership costs like maybe a 49-dollar tripwire to solve that problem but then you comeback at them with the membership offer like 29 or 39 dollars a month for the first few months or whatever because now they’re going to get their problems solved and then all of the sudden you’re offering to solve other problems for cheaper each month. You see? This is a weird kind of dynamic that you got here. We need to identify paying customers that are willing to spend money and then pull them into the membership and that flip dynamic in this case might help you find a better level of customer plus an easier sell into the membership after they’ve purchased the tripwire.
KAT: Yeah, that’s such a good idea. I’ve always a little bit of a disconnect because my tripwire and my membership has similar prosing and it just didn’t feel quite right so that’s just perfect.
SHANE: We have actually been kind of experimenting lately with maybe some really high end trainings and then offering our membership off to back up it because we know some other marketers that are having a lot of success to that so they kind of flipping that tripwire concept on a ten.it might be a good case. I don’t think you’re going to be offering a 500-dollar product and then the membership but maybe something 50 to 29.you know, they’ll pay 50, it works,29s a no brainer at that point.
SHANE: What’s your second question Kat?
KAT: So, the second question kind of comes a little bit from what we’ve just talked about. It’s how can I take the customer set of purchase to my cheaper products and help them a community member, a paid community member?
SHANE: So this is getting to people that paid that buy initially and getting them to become community members, okay?
JOCELYN: I think right now might be a little bit tough because you sort of giving them everything that they need to do like you’ve given them this pretty little road map in two minutes and some of them will do it and some of them will not but I think that part of it is just turning them into a nurture sequence like once you’ve given them the offer they don’t take it. You can’t just give up on them forever. I think that this is something that we’ve done in the past and we’re starting to change this around a little bit. You know, just because somebody doesn’t offer for me right now doesn’t mean that they never will. So what you need to this put them into a nurture sequence and I do it on elementary library and I send out two emails a month which is not a whole a lot but I don’t want to send emails like all the time. So I just have it setup for asking them something for free. The next time I send them like some type of resource or maybe a link on the internet that’s relevant to something on the school calendar and every quarter I send them an offer. So like I say also I offer here’s the special price on my community.
SHANE: And the strategies she’s using here is kind of like I was saying to you earlier in the first question. You’re looking to constantly agitate paying points like Jocelyn’s calendar should we know the school calendar like we know that people are going to be teaching about like in the states Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas, Mark Luther King, we know when those holidays on the federal calendar so she sends out resources for that particular paying point like if someone like Monday in the states is Martin Luther King day, right? So we know the people are going to need less on lands Martin Luther Kind junior. You send them that agitate the paying point. I need a lesson plan about this tomorrow. You solve a small problem, one day out of a 185 school days that might have been the trigger when they join. They might wait till next month. Here’s your valentine’s day lesson. It didn’t happen. Here’s your St. Patrick’s day thing, oh, I wasn’t really buying yesterday. This solved my problem. I’ll just buy this now and have lesson plans for the rest of the year. So your nurture sequence should be paying point, agitate, give a small solution that will lead them to the next paying point where all the solutions wherein your forum.so that’s kind of what you’re looking at here. Once you get them on your email list, don’t assume because they didn’t buy the first one they’re not going to buy, just be like, this person will buy. It might be two years from now, it might be six months from now but if I can just keep showing them I can solve their problems. Not just the first problem, all their problems. Then they’re actually going to give me their money into the membership.
KAT: And that’s such a good shift in mind set because a lot of the time I get the mean and I go through my initial sequence and then they just get my blog post emails for the rest of their time on my email list and I always forget that yes, you can ask them to buy later on as well. So, that’s a good reminder.
JOCELYN: Yeah definitely and that’s something that I wasn’t doing for a really long time when I’m an elementary librarian and I don’t have the sequence, a 100% complete yet I’m still working on it but it’s going to be interesting for me to see how many sales that I picked up from them.
SHANE: I think there’s another strategy here to, we don’t ever like to fragment our products. We want everything to be in our membership because if you fragment your membership too much then they can just buy all the card away and they’ll never join—
JOCELYN: But if you have enough content which I do on elementary librarian I have over 500 lesson plans.
SHANE: To piece that out.
JOCELYN: So, I send a year worth of nurture sequence and they make it like 50th lesson plans, giving them 10% of what’s included in my membership.
SHANE: So you could do of something very similar here like you can have more than one like tripwire too like, you have heaps of contents you said, tons of contents—
KAT: Yeah and I actually have a— it’s very Australian—
JOCELYN: He said heaps—
SHANE: Yeah I said heaps, because you did earlier and I was like, I’m going to speak Australian.
KAT: Do you guys not say that?
SHANE: We do not say heaps.
JOCELYN: Ah, no. We would say like tons.
SHANE: We would say like tons or a lot of, that’s about it, that’s how far as we go.
KAT: Yeah, that’s so cute.
JOCELYN: That was very Southern.
SHANE: Yeah, I like the y’ol there. What you need to do is like let’s say that you’ve got three really superb piece of content within your forum. You can make those available only in your funnel, kind of tripwires every quarter like Jocelyn’s up making new offers every quarter and really need trick that a buddy of mine does is, he, like say he’s in this sequence three months down the road, he didn’t take the first offer, right? You can take like say, you had that Pinterest thing and you show how Pinterest in Etsy can kind of synergize with each other right? Whatever. So how do you use Pinterest to make your Etsy shop sell more money? Maybe that’s the course within your membership. Take that an offer the first quarter and say it’s like we make your membership 29 dollars a month. Offer the course on the sales page like, hey, guys, here’s a great new course I’ve got it’s normally only available on my membership from my email subscribers only, you can get it right now for 29 dollars, click here. When they go to the sales page you got two columns, 29 dollars for the course or the membership for 29 dollars. Get this course and everything else and that gets them on the recurrent subscription and gets them on the door not just for one tripwire the whole thing, but what’s the dynamic? The psychology here is if you get that person on that trip wire, three months later you get on that page and those two columns, are you going to get one course or buy the exact same amount of money for the same price to get a membership and get the course plus everything else. So now, you’re taking this a bigger step and getting them in the door, get them signed up. You’re opening a little bit of the membership to them but you are going to go ahead and show them, guys, you wanted the video, just take everything and let’s go to the next level. That’s a good trick you can use later on down your funnel to make go ahead and sign up for the membership.
KAT: Yeah, I can see that working really well.
SHANE: If they’re going to spend 29 on the one video, 90% of the time they’re going to spend it on the membership so it’s just about getting them to get on the recurring membership. That’s the goal because once you get them inside, it’s so easy to retain because you’re going to serve them, you’re going to be in the community, you’re going to be around another people like them and they’re going to come for the content but they’re going to stay because of that community.
KAT: Exactly, yeah, that was perfect.
JOCELYN: Right, well that was a lot of information only we just had you through right there.
SHANE: We still got one more question to go.
KAT: Lucky you’re coding.
SHANE: I know right?
JOCELYN: So what is your third question for us?
KAT: So, my last question is around Facebook groups and I know you guys got rid of your Facebook group when you created your membership site and I’m wondering if perhaps my nurturing my free Facebook group at the moment which has a few 100 members and it does I was having engagement in there and I’m always answering question and everyone loves it but should I still continue to build up while I’m trying to grow my membership, can the two work how many with each other or should I just focus on the membership?
SHANE: You know what they say about getting the cow and the milk for free, I’m just saying, you know what I mean? So I think that you definitely got a problem here just like the tripwire. You’re associating them. They’re getting everything they need. There’s no reason for them to join. We choose not to use a Facebook group because we think it totally spoofs our focus for one thing because I can’t run a page, Facebook group adds, or membership we can’t do it, you know, and two, if we answer all the questions for free, why would anyone ever give us money to do so. Now, that being said, we have friends, I mean, Joe and Justin from Screw to 95 have a very good Facebook group but they don’t give away all the answers there, all they do is guide discussion—
JOCELYN: Which is more of a facilitation, facilitating, facilitation—
SHANE: Yeah, facilitation, facilitating-
JOCELYN: Facilitating discussion.
SHANE: It’s a wordy Kentucky that you got it.
JOCELYN: I think that the sort of purpose of theirs, you know, people have different philosophies on this. For us, it’s not worth the time investment. You have to be constantly be in there looking for people like dropping links—
JOCELYN: Like putting spam and yeah—. For me that’s more of a headache than it’s forth. I mean, if you go in there and you build a Facebook group and you give them a special offer and you see people taking you up on it, then I kept possibly see a case for continuing to do that but as far as I’m concerned we probably won’t be doing a free Facebook group anytime in the near future.
SHANE: The only way I see it working is if it’s automated where you’re using something like meet edgar to start a daily discussion that’s the same every week and gets people talking and then you go in and it’s that same thing you’re offering little nuggets to point people to right direction toward their problems but the goal is, the goal of the Facebook group is not totally to answer every single question, it’s to get people to join your membership but—
JOCELYN: And if you’re saying that they’re not joining your membership—
SHANE: Then it’s probably not working.
JOCELYN: Then probably it’s not going to be worthwhile for you to continue daily.
SHANE: Like for example, like take this, you got your Facebook a few hundred members and it’s not really converting, we know that what you are doing now is not working. Would it be better with that time be better spent to just creating an add like spending 30 minutes to make a really good ad and targeting people who like Etsy or like Etsy seller groups or something like that, is there a better use of our time that would think would convert members than the Facebook group? If the answer is yes, then don’t be afraid to get rid of things, we are down to one social network we only deal with Facebook now, a little bit of Pinterest but not much for a Flip Lifestyle And we’re just focusing on one thing, buying Facebook ads, just make the ads and buy the traffic. It’s not worth the time and effort to do the group—
JOCELYN: For us.
SHANE: For us, it might before somebody else but I think you’ve got enough data Kat that you’re seeing, you know, this group has to change dramatically or this group has to go away and I need to come up with a different kind of strategy.
KAT: Yeah, that’s exactly right and the time thing I think is quite important because you’re right, the time that I spent in that group every day, well, I do enjoy it, I could be in my membership—
KAT: Dealing with those, helping those guys out.
SHANE: And I’ll tell you a great thing here to do here, last time that we closed the Facebook group and have it and peeve it to something different which we can figure that out in community, okay, because that’s a bigger issue that we can deal with here in a few minutes but like let’s say we’re going to get rid of this. We got a few hundred members right now, what a great time for about a week or two to say, guys, I’m going to have to peeve it. I’ve got some more great things to serve my membership. I really want to focus on my members, this group is going to be closing but because you guys have always been here I’m going to open this up for a 50% off discount and join my membership and lock it in forever while I’m in this vivid and maybe we convert 50 to a 100 of those people into members because they are used to that Facebook group. They’re in it and they’re use to getting all the answers. That’s going to go away for them but maybe we can put, I mean, it’s not that much of a discount but maybe we can use this to turn a third of those people into actual paying members, the group goes away and then we move forward with what we got.
KAT: Yeah, I love that.
SHANE: And we’ll replace it with something that’s something we’ll have to discuss more into the forums or in the mastermind next week, we will figure it out okay?
KAT: That’s perfect.
JOCELYN: Alright Kat that was a lot of information that we through out there hopefully it was a good stuff for you, so with everything that we talked about today, what is something that you’re going to take action on saying the next one or two days?
KAT: So I think the most important thing for me would be to look at my tripwire sequences and have a looking my weber and see if I can start a segment pay for a little bit better and then we’re going that email sequence where instead giving everybody everything they need, every time they purchase my 19-dollar product, maybe pull that back a little bit and as you guys suggested start to bring people in, into my membership instead of giving them everything for free and then not having any members.
SHANE: Right exactly that, we want members, we never have members, you have a membership right? I think that’s a great thing. Let’s refine the offer at the point of the tripwire and I think that’s going to solve a lot of problems for you because it’s going to get people to say, hey, I’ve got a problem I’ve got to get Kat solve my problem and the only way to do that is to pay her. Just like a doctor, the doctor is not going to give you, the pharmacist, they will not give you the medicine. You know what I mean? You go ahead and give them some money to buy the aspirin or you will have a headache.
SHANE: So Patrick’s business is like that too. Okay, that’s awesome discussion. I’m so glad that we’re able to connect our massive world spending time differences and get on a call at the same time. I know you personally, and I know that you’re going to take action so I’m challenging you to go and post in the forums right now what you’re going to do in the next two days and then we’ll knock that out and we will be ready to move forward, okay?
KAT: Yeah, thank you so much. I really, really, appreciate you guys taking the time today and if there’s any Flip Your Life Members that haven’t got on one of these calls already, you definitely need to do it because the value I mean that’s just paid for my membership for the next year really has a lot of start. Thank you. You guys are awesome.
SHANE: We appreciate that.
JOCELYN: We will not pay her to say that.
SHANE: Yeah, we didn’t. This is not a paid advertisement from our Australian friend here in Australia. Alright Kat, we’ll talk to you later.
KAT: Thank you.
SHANE: What a great call from one of our Flip Your Life Community member. We’d love to have you on our Flip Your Life Community as well. If you like to become a member of the Flip Your Life Community, head over to fliplifestyle.com/flipyourlife and we can help you with your online business too.
JOCELYN: Alright, next we are going to move into the can’t miss moments segment of our show and these are moments that we were able to experience that we might have missed if we were working at none of our job we’re doing.
SHANE: This weeks’ can’t miss moment is doing homework with Izec Cabana that believe it or not our preschooler and kindergartener, wait, he’s not in kindergarten anymore, our first grader, I’m confused, that they have a lot of homework even though they are only in first grade in preschool and we try to sit down with them every night and help them with their home works. I’m not saying they only have maybe writing her letters or something like that but we actually print some other workout for her, it’s kind of get for some more reinforcement and to equal out the homework pocket because Izec has a strong sense of fairness and if she has less papers than we tend to hear about it but recently we got to sit down before dinner one night and we were just working on some homework and it was a really good experience.
JOCELYN: Yeah, it’s really nice to us to be able to sit down and none have to think about what do I have to do the next day. We can concentrate more on our kids and not have to worry about when am I going to work, what time do I have to get there, what drama am I going to have deal with when I get there so that is really cool. I think about what we do is that we don’t have to worry about all that. We can just concentrate on our children, what they’re doing and just give more effort and energy toward them.
SHANE: And I also like it, you no, this is a little bit selfish to say it I guess but we spent most of our adult life investing in a lot of other people’s children, you know we were coaching , teaching and things like that and I just really was thankful the other day that our entire life now centers around investing into our children and their future and just giving them the best possible chance and opportunity to be successful and being able to dedicate so much time to them. So I was just really thankful the other day that our online business gives us a chance to sit down and do homework with the kids every day. Before we go today, we would like to close every single one of our shows with the version of bible. Jocelyn and I draw a lot of inspiration and motivation from the bible and we wanted to share some of that with you. Today’s bible verse comes II Timothy Chapter One Verse Seven and the bible says, “For the spirit God gave us does not make us timid but gives us power, love and self-discipline.” So take that power, take that love, take that self-discipline. Get out there and build something that cannot only make your dreams come true but can help other people as well. That’s all the time we have for this week.as always guys, thanks for listening to the Flip Lifestyle podcast and until next time, get out there, take action, do whatever it takes to Flip Your Life, we’ll see you then.