In this episode, we introduce the latest addition to the Flipped Lifestyle Team, Kat Jarman.
Kat is our FYL Community Manager and she’ll be a breath of fresh perspective in our membership forums, as she shares her knowledge and experience to help members get to the next level.
She’s tried getting her online business off the ground by herself, joined live events, jumped in a membership community full of other online entrepreneurs, hit the peaks and valleys, but most of all, she took massive action.
Her online business journey is an amazing testimony of the freedom that lies on the other side of fear and uncertainty.
This amazing collaboration, adding Kat’s entrepreneurial voice to the chorus within the membership, is going to blow you away.
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Shane: Welcome to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast where life always comes before work. We’re your hosts, Shane and Jocelyn Sams.
We’re a real family who figured out how to make our entire living online. And now, we help other families do the same. Are you ready to flip your life? Alright. Let’s get started.
What’s going on, everybody? Welcome back to the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. It is great to be back with you again this week. We have got a different kind of episode for you this week. This is actually like breaking the rules a little bit but it’s our show so we get to break the rules.
Normally, we might have something that is on Jocelyn’s and my mind, or we might bring on a member of our Flip Your Life community and help them take their business to the next level.
But we are actually going to have a guest on the program here in a few minutes, and it is our new community manager, Kat. Before we bring on Kat, we are going to talk a little bit about why we are bringing on a community manager in the first place to help us inside the Flip Your Life community.
For those of you who are in the community, you know that a lot of the members of our team, people that work with us to help us produce the community, produce the podcast are in there helping us get people the answers that they need to take their business to the next level.
We felt like it was really important to bring on someone who is a successful entrepreneur, who knew what they were doing with some of the stuff that we were teaching to help everyone else make it to the next level, too.
Jocelyn: At first, when we first started out our community, Shane and I were answering pretty much every single post. We still answer as many as we can, but as the community is growing, it has gotten harder and harder for us to do that. We want to make sure that there is still a voice in there who understands how to grow a business, but is not necessarily Shane or myself all the time.
Another benefit to bringing in a community manager is just that it helps our community members. It is just beneficial for everyone in the community to be able to get answers more quickly, to be able to be pointed to our content that they need help with, and just to get a voice in there who understands what they are going through, and knows how to help them get to the next level.
Shane: Alright, the best way for you guys to get to know our new community manager, we thought was to bring her on to the show, and we can talk a little bit about how we know each other, everything that she’s been through in the last couple years with her business and why she decided to come on board to the Flipped Lifestyle team.
Without further ado, our amazing friend, Kat Jarman.
Hey, Kat, how are you doing?
Kat: Hey, you guys, I’m so excited to be here. Thanks for having me!
Jocelyn: Yes, we’re so happy to have you, and even more happy that you’ve decided to come on as our community manager. We’ve been talking about this for a really long time and some of you might remember Kat from another episode of the Flipped Lifestyle podcast. Kat has been our customer for a long time. She has also been our friend for a long time.
Shane: Kat, talk a little bit if you could, just tell everybody a little bit about you like where you’re from. Let’s just start back where we met, let’s just go there and see where the conversation takes us.
Kat: Awesome! Let’s do it. I’m Australian, if anybody could tell from the accent.
Shane: I thought you were from Texas. I’m not going to lie.
Kat: Well, I’ve been working so hard on it. We actually met a couple of years ago at a conference in the Philippines. I was super excited to meet you guys, and I know that you guys on your end had had some people tell you that you must meet me. And I had people on my end say that, “You must meet Shane and Jocelyn.” We kind of went to this conference, both, with the aim of seeking each other out. It went from there.
Shane: Was that 2015?
Kat: It was in ’15, yeah.
Shane: Yeah, I remember two or three things really vividly from that event. One of them is just sitting on the beach in those big giant chairs, and us talking, getting to know each other. You know how when you meet people sometimes and you just click? You feel the same values, you feel the same vibe coming from each other, and I really got that from you when we met you there.
It was cool because later on, you would actually come to America, and when we were like, “Wait a minute, you are coming to America? You have to come near us. We have to take you to the South and show you what the South is like. It’s so funny because we had never really met in person except for that event.” And then, “Hey, let’s rent a cabin and stay together for a week.”
Jocelyn: We had talked during this time. It’s not like we were just, “Hey, let’s hang out!” We still kept in contact this entire time.
Kat: It could have gone really badly.
Shane: I know, right? I mean, you’ve got these strange people from Australia coming in, and we were just like these weirdos from Kentucky, and we’re just going to go down and check in, down in Tennessee.
Jocelyn: It was just amazing.
Kat: It was the best three days. It was amazing.
Jocelyn: I want you tell people… because you’ve been to America a lot of times before this trip. I want you to tell people about this trip.
Shane: Best time ever, right?
Jocelyn: We had originally planned we were going to maybe meet up in Florida, but we were having some issues with finding somebody to watch our kids for that long, and so we were like, “Okay, well can you guys maybe come closer to us?” And they were like, “I don’t know.”
Shane: We talked them into going to Pigeon Forge, TN. It’s the biggest tourist trap in America.
Jocelyn: I want you to tell people about your southern experience.
Kat: It was amazing. We had been to America. I think this might have been our seventh trip, but we’d only ever gone to the real mainstream areas that you hear about, being a non-American. We went to New York and Las Vegas and those sorts of places. We went to Pigeon Forge and it was hilarious. It is possibly the coolest place I have ever seen and I think it is normal for you guys because you grew up so close to there.
The entertainment, the attractions, the uniqueness, were maybe a little bit quirky. It was just an amazing way to actually get straight into the culture probably in maybe an over exaggerated way.
Shane: Oh, yeah, exactly, yes. It’s definitely 120% of what the culture is. We drove by a place called, “Goats on the Roof.” Only in Pigeon Forge, TN can you eat the most fattening, disgusting, delicious food on the planet Earth, and then go to a place called, Goats on the Roof and then go find a moonshine distillery, and then all these things, and then still have time to go talk about business at night.
Kat: It was great. Take me back.
Shane: We have been friends for a long time, but we’ve also been helping you with your business and things like that for a long time, and I can remember you were kind of at a crossroads in your business when we got there. It’s impossible to get around me and Jocelyn without us being like, “So, how is your business going? What can we do to get you to the next level?”
Jocelyn: Or we get in the hot tub at the cabin, and we’re like, “Okay, here’s this plan that I wrote for you –”
Shane: “Let’s re-plan your whole business for you right now.”
Jocelyn: — in the hot tub.
Shane: In the hot tub. What happened there about that?
Kat: Yes, so it was a massive time of uncertainty in my business. The reason being is that back when I chose the business I was going to work on, I did it because somebody else told me it was a good idea. It’s probably not the best way to choose your niche or the industry that you are going to get into online business with, but I had nothing else so that’s what I did.
Jocelyn: And just as a disclaimer, that person was not us.
Shane: Yeah, that was not us.
Kat: No, it wasn’t, no, it wasn’t. It was an uphill battle from that point on because it probably wasn’t where I should have started, but I did it anyway. I’m very persistent. I thought, “I’m going to make this work no matter what.” The business that I was running– and I’m still running– it’s a business that teaches Etsy sellers about how to build and create their business.
I had done it the old-fashioned way. Well, maybe not old fashioned, but it was through selling individual one-off courses to people. That’s definitely very different to what you guys teach in your membership, which is more about selling recurring revenue to create that recurring string of income.
When I joined your community, I had decided to transfer from the selling one-off courses into building a membership site. I’d done that, and then I didn’t know how to get it off the ground. I remember sitting in that hot tub with you, going, “Guys, I really don’t have any members. I don’t know how to get them. I have quite a big email list, I have a decent social media following, but I’ve got five members, and I can’t figure out how to get more. I remember Shane saying to me, “Let’s get you 20 members while you’re on holidays!” I’m like, “Okay.”
Shane: Right, that’s how we roll. Yeah.
Jocelyn: You actually did get some members.
Shane: And it did work, that’s why it was crazy. We were just sitting there. We were like, “Okay, we’re going to spend the rest of this trip eating way too much food, and figuring out how to possibly get 20 members. It was just cool watching that process because it’s crazy how online business works. It’s not that you have someone to tell you what you to do. But it’s just like getting a plan. It doesn’t even really matter what the plan is, and we’re not against courses. We’re for memberships, we’re for courses. We’re for any way you can make money online, right?
It was just, at that time, you had this membership set up, and was like, this is what we have to make happen, and so that was our only focus. But the cool thing was, unlike some other people, you took massive action. You’re just like, “Alright, let’s do it. Let’s just do whatever we say and let’s just see if it works.
Kat: And I’m very good at if somebody is expecting me to do something, I will do it. For me to actually take massive action, there has to be accountability built in there somewhere. And I knew that you were going to ask me if I’ve done what you told me to do, so that’s why I did it, and it’s the best. If people out there listening aren’t so great at getting things done, just build in accountability. That’s how I run my whole business.
Shane: Yeah, and that’s what’s so awesome. When we first started talking about having a community manager because… when you start getting hundreds of people asking questions, it’s almost impossible for one person or two people to even keep up with it. Also, the community, as it grows, has people at different levels. There are some people who have launched. There are some people who are getting ready to launch. There are some people who are just starting their business. There are some people who are making six figures.
We have to almost segment a little bit and figure out how can we get people to the next level as fast as possible, because that’s what the Flip Your Life community really is. It’s an accelerator to get you past the learning curve as fast as possible to give you the training that you need to get things built. That is really the biggest benefit of the community, I think, is the accountability.
Just so many people going through the same thing together. When we were thinking back then, what do we want to do? Do we make a job description for this, do we want to post this somewhere and see if we can hire someone to do this or whatever? But basically every conversation that Jocelyn and I had was, “No, we just need to talk Kat into doing this for us.” One, we trust you 100%.
Jocelyn: And you’ve been with us forever.
Shane: Yeah, you’ve been with us forever. You know exactly how we teach everything because you do it like we do. We know you’re an action taker, we know you’ve done this before and you’ve been successful getting members. Everything that we do was just like, “We’ve got to be able to get Kat to be our community manager because we would trust you with anybody that go walking in to say, ‘Here, Kat will show you what to do. Let’s go.”
You would say the exact same things we would, so it wouldn’t matter. I just think it’s awesome that you’re actually on board our team now. I’m just so happy about this.
Kat: It’s kind of perfect actually because I don’t know if I ever told you guys this, but over the past couple of years, I would have other online business friends, and we’d get on Skype, or we’d have phone conversations, and they would ask me what they should do next. In my mind, I’m just thinking, “What would Shane and Jocelyn do?” Honestly, even my husband, he’s not even in online business. He does real estate. But he quite often would say to me, “What would Shane do?”
Shane: That’s hilarious.
Kat: It is hilarious, and it’s kind of just one of those meant-to-be situations, I think.
Shane: We need to start making those wristbands. WWSJD. Like, What Would Shane and Jocelyn Do? Then on the other side, WWKD, What Would Kat Do? Let’s just pass these out everywhere we go. It’s awesome, too, because another huge benefit of the community is that you can get answers whenever you want. When we were trying to answer all the questions, we can’t answer questions 24 hours a day because we have kids and we have to sleep.
There was this weird dynamic developing where the community just takes over on people, like when somebody is close to something, you ever notice when you log into the community, and you’re like, whoa, that post has 25 replies, and it’s because someone is like, “I’m on the verge of doing something great, would like some help.” And everyone just kind of jumps in.
Another thing that’s cool is you are in Australia. You’re literally opposite us in times. A lot of times, you’ll be in the forums, and then the sun will go down on your side of the world, and then we’ll be in the forums. Then the sun will come up somewhere else, and a couple other people will be in the forums. It’s almost impossible not to get a really quick answer now in the community because one, it’s grown so big, and two, the community managers like us and you and other people on our team are in there at all times during the day.
Kat: Yeah, it just gives us capacity to help more people, which is awesome.
Shane: For sure.
Jocelyn: Yes, I think that is a huge benefit for the people in our community to have three of us in there now, and even our assistants, they come in and help as well. That’s just even more people to be there answering questions and helping people to make it to the next place they need to be.
Shane: I want to talk a little bit though about why you specifically decided to do this. It’s one thing for us to say, “Hey, it would be a great idea, Kat, if you came and worked with us. But you do have your own thing, and you have your own ideas, you’re entrepreneurial. What made this appealing to you? Why was it such a good fit, do you think for you at this time to jump on board?
Kat: The answer lies with the two-foot, red-headed child that takes up all of my time at the moment, so, yeah. I had a baby 8 months ago, so it made me rearrange how I do things, and it also at the same time gave me the freedom to choose what I wanted to do. What I mean by that was that I mentioned before that this business that I was building never sat completely right with me. I always knew that one day, I would pivot out of it, or that I would transition out of it. But I never knew what that transition would look like.
Also, I was so distracted with making sure that my membership was successful that I would have never given myself permission to stop that business or to transition it to somebody else or to let it go if my daughter hadn’t have come along at the same time. It was kind of one of those things where everything happens as it should. And she came along. I let the business do whatever it wanted for three months while I looked after her, and it gave me the headspace to go, “Okay, now I can actually do something that fits me a lot better.” It gave me permission to pivot.
Jocelyn: I love that because we’ve talked about it before. I think that there are so many people out there that are saying there is one way to do this. You have to become the expert, and you have to be on stages, and have books, and all these types of things, and I think that it’s important that people understand that there are other ways to do this online business. Tell me about your mental state now as far as business is concerned. We’ve talked about this before, but I just want for the benefit of the audience, how do you feel doing this type of work now?
Shane: How do you feel being the community manager versus the other thing?
Kat: Love it, it’s amazing, it’s perfect. I always felt that I didn’t want to be in business alone, and I would get really frustrated and a little bit jealous of people like you guys and others that have– you know, they were working together with somebody else. I thought, okay, maybe I need to get a business partner or maybe my husband and I need to work together but none of that ever fit right. Now, I know why. It’s because it wasn’t meant to. I didn’t have to go and get a business partner. I just had to move into what was right for me.
A few years ago, I did a personal development course where they get you to work out your values and my top two values are something along the lines of purpose and connection. For me, this suits that. The connection I get to talk to as many people as I want every single day, and the purpose is there too, because I get to help people as well.
For me, it’s honestly a match made in heaven. It’s amazing. I can’t even believe how easy a transition it’s all been.
Shane: You feel like when you first start out an online business you learn about three things: all the online gurus say, “My way is the best,” and all the gurus say, “Well, if you don’t meet me, and if you don’t network with the gurus, then you will never make it.” Then, they say, “Well, you can only scale your business if you do XYZ, and anything else is wrong.”
We just learned the hard way, I think that those things are not true, or maybe just me and Jocelyn are just really stubborn because we kind of just blaze our own trail a little bit in that regard because we are kind of like, “No, that does not fit our life,” or, “No, that does not work with us.” I don’t want to have to charge people $5,000, and I don’t want to have to do these coaching programs I’m working 90 hours a week,” or whatever it is that they say is the way to make it.
The longer we are in this, the more real people that we meet, and the more real people that we help, we start seeing like, “Wait a minute, this person built their online business. They built their success this way.” Maybe memberships aren’t right for everybody. Maybe digital products are better, or maybe it’s Amazon, or maybe it is doing what you are doing and creating this lifestyle around being a community manager.”
We have someone that works with us. She’s our Virtual Chief of Staff. Basically, she has built our entire business around helping a limited number of entrepreneurs manage their team.
Jocelyn: These are high-level entrepreneurs. She does very well, she has a very nice income. She just loves what she does. She loves being a support person.
Shane: She built the business that she wanted. She was telling us that it was the same thing when she was trying to leave corporate, she was like, “Well, I have to do what everybody else does. I’ve got to be a high-end coach. I’ve got to be a coach. Everybody is a life coach now right? I’ve got to do a course about how to do this stuff.” And then she just realized, “Well, wait a minute. I could get five or six people that just want me to do this for them, and I can build a business this way.”
She still has time freedom, she still has location freedom, she is still valued. One of the things we talked about when we first started even mentioning this to you was like, we don’t want you to work for us, we just want you to work with us. All those things that people are really craving: respect and time freedom and good money and things like that. You can build it in any way you want online.
Kat: You can, and I think part of it was, for me and maybe some others out there is letting go of their ego as well. Letting go of the thought that if you go and join somebody else in their business that we get so scared because it feels like we’re going into a job again, and that is why so many of us have either left or we’re trying to avoid ever going back into.
For me, it was not thinking of, “Hang on, I’ve just got another job, dullness for hours.” It’s actually an amazing opportunity that fits me perfectly. I had to let go of the parameters that I had set that said, “Okay, you must be the guru in your business. You have to be this big public figure.” It just wasn’t me. I am never going to be the person that is speaking on stage. I’ve tried. It just does not work for me at all. It just wasn’t meant to be. I don’t want to be the person steering the ship by myself. I want to collaborate and work with people. I honestly could not be happier.
Jocelyn: I love that. I think it’s so cool have we learned these lessons about ourselves. Shane and I are almost 40 years old. We are learning these same types of lessons. It is different for us, but I feel like we are starting to understand ourselves better. You would think that at almost 40, you would know yourself, but I feel like you really don’t.
Shane: I think the mentality that people have to have, when you decide to be self-employed is, “I’m always self-employed and I’ve always got customers and clients. I’ve always got a job, I’ve always got a career,”. When you really figure out that I can still set the rules and play with other people, the thing that we are all trying to avoid is more being a slave to the system. I always say that of our old life, when we were teachers, and when we were doing corporate jobs. There, you felt like a cog in the machine.
But when you are setting the rules, “Whoa, this relationship allows me to do this, this, this, and this without having to do all those other things that I don’t like,” and then will still be able to freelance, and make the money, and do it however you want. That is what you’re looking for. It’s contentment. It is happiness. You are in control again.
So many people have been tricked almost into thinking that, “No, if you are not a figurehead of the hundred million dollar-company, and you are the guy on stage doing the keynote, then you are not successful.” That is just bogus. That is totally bogus. Right before we got on this call, successful to me was, I had to lay down with Anna Jo because she couldn’t sleep.
I was lying in bed with her, and we sent you a message like, “Our kids are not asleep.” And you’re like, “Okay, that’s cool.” That’s success to me, is those kinds of relationships being able to be here for my daughter, being able to have a nice, fluid workflow with the awesome people that we get to be around, and get to do that every day. That is what it is all about.
Kat: It is, it is, it is about choice, that is why most of us do this because we want the choice. It can look like however you want it to look like.
Jocelyn: The one thing that I want to stress to you, and to our listeners is that the time you put in building your business was not a waste of time. Think of all of the benefits that you’ve got out of it.
Shane: It’s still there, and it is still makes money right now.
Jocelyn: Right now, it is still bringing in income. You went and invested in the right types of things, you went to live events, you met people who were able to later work with you, and you just did a lot of the right things.
Shane: We were talking on Voxer the other day, about how the universe is crazy. It is like when you decided to pivot, everything just started falling into place.
Kat: It did, it was crazy.
Shane: Tell everybody just like what we were talking about the other day, how that kind of worked.
Jocelyn: And we don’t have to get specific here.
Shane: Yeah, yeah.
Kat: That’s fine. Well, the thing that blows my mind is that if I had not pushed through and built that business– for three years, I built that business feeling like it wasn’t the right thing. But I pushed through it, and I kept going, and I kept building it, and I built the membership, and had so much momentum up until the point where I had my daughter. I kept going, “Why am I doing this, what is the purpose of it?”
That I just didn’t know, and I would think to myself, “I really wish the answer would appear to me.” I wish I knew what my next step was meant to be, but it just never appeared. I just thought I would keep going and going and going, and when I looked back, I think well, if I hadn’t done all of that, I wouldn’t be any position to be how to help other people now because you can’t teach people something that you haven’t done yourself. I just don’t believe in doing that.
It’s put me in a position where I can help people, and I can still do what I think my purpose is, because I think my purpose is to help people. It just made it so easy honestly. I’m still blown away at how all the pieces fit together, the fact that I was able to have a baby, and then eight months later, I’m in a better position in my online business, and happiness-wise and everything like that when, most of us eight months after having a baby, everything is crazy town. And it is to a certain degree. But at least, the business stuff has just fallen into place. I can’t believe it.
Shane: I think that what is a huge lesson so that everyone listening to this can get out of that is, Jocelyn and I have been doing this for a while now we’ve seen hundreds and hundreds of people come through the community. We have thousands of people who listen to the podcast and contact us and all these things.
We see a lot, and we study this stuff intently. We’re looking at other people’s communities; we join other people’s communities.
Jocelyn: We take training, such as our training modules all the time, we join other communities.
Shane: We see this from every angle we can possibly see it. The biggest thing that people do wrong is they get afraid, and they don’t do anything. Or they are waiting for that perfect moment, or they are waiting for that perfect course, or they are waiting for that perfect magic pill. They are just waiting. I think that all of us who have made it to the other side know that every decision we made was just, “I have to put my foot in front of the other foot. I’ve got to take the next step, even if that may not be the right next step.”
Like you just said, we went to these live events who knows what the next step was. You started this business and you’re like, maybe it’s not the right thing, but you did it because you knew, even if it wasn’t the right thing, you are going to learn something that would get you to the right thing.
Or eventually, the right thing would come along and you would be taking action, and know how to take action on it to make is successful, and that is just what so many people won’t do. They either don’t ever do the thing they are afraid to do because they’re like, “Well, it might not be the perfect home run.” Or they start doing it, it doesn’t work, and they just give up. Those are the two biggest problems that we’re having. People like you, people like us, the other people in the community who are quitting their jobs and doing all these crazy things, it blows your mind when you go into the success forum.
If you ever want to just go be happy, go read the Success Forum for about an hour, and you can just see all these crazy things and these crazy steps people are doing. It’s because they’re taking action, it’s because they’re overcoming fear, and they are putting themselves in a position so when the right thing shows up, they can actually take advantage of it.
Two years ago, you wouldn’t have been able to take advantage of what you are doing now, these opportunities. But all the stuff that you’ve done over the last two years, now it’s just a no-brainer. Now, it’s just people who are begging you to “come help us,” right? And it’s just because you did the thing.
It’s like that quote I always say– long time listeners have probably heard me say this before– “In every situation, the right thing to do is the right thing. The next best thing to do is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing.” Because if you do nothing, nothing happens.
Kudos to you, friend, because you do do all the right things!
Kat: Thank you. I don’t have it all figured out, to be honest.
Shane: Nobody does.
Jocelyn: We don’t have it all figured out. Jocelyn and I were talking before you came on, and I’m rambling now because we’re talking at 10 o’clock at night, but Jocelyn and I were talking before about how one of the most exciting things for us about bringing you on especially is just bringing on another voice because none of us have it figured out.
Seeing some of the things that you say to people in the community that I never would have even thought to say, everyone has a different perspective, and that’s the most powerful thing about our community, is that everyone is helping each other, right? We’ve got more than once voice. Do you want our community to be just me and you, Jocelyn, preaching on top of the lectern?
Jocelyn: No, absolutely not.
Shane: No, I just don’t want it to be that way. I just want everybody to help each other. The whole goal of the Flip Your Life community is to facilitate everybody figuring out their next step, and then being successful at their next step. The more people we have helping with that mission, the better.
Kat: Exactly. It’s such an amazing community as well. Quite often, I will go to answer a question, and there will be two or three replies that I think– wow, you guys– just blew me away. They’re smarter than me. It’s such a beautiful community, and I’m really happy just to be able to help facilitate the amazing connection that everybody has in there. Just the action-taking, that’s all I am about, is just taking action and persisting and one foot in front of the other.
I don’t have all the answers, but if you want a butt-kicking, I can help with that.
Shane: I’m all about the butt-kicking. That’s what we’re here for, we’re here to kick your butt, people.
Jocelyn: We like to do a little bit of that as well.
Shane: I knew that the community itself was going to the next level, and one of the ways that we actually knew that we needed to bring in somebody to help us for sure was when the conversations got so fast, that I would log in, and I would answer as many questions as I could, and I would log out. I would come back later that night or the next morning, and all the things that I talked about were off the first page.
On top of that, what’s really cool — it’s like Twitter inside the community. You can @Shane or @Jocelyn or @Kat. I noticed that those “@” were getting fewer and farther between, and people were asking other people for help. People really needed answers and they really needed them fast, and people were kind of stopping asking us because we were so overwhelmed that we couldn’t do it.
Kat, I am so glad that you are a member of the Flipped Lifestyle team. I am so glad that you are our community manager. I can’t even imagine how many people that you’re going to help change their lives, flip their lives and just take it to the next level.
If you want to talk to Kat, get in the community because she is there waiting for you!
Jocelyn: And you do, because she’s awesome.
Shane: And thank you also for saying, “Yes,” because I think it’s just amazing that you just put your faith in us, and that you believe in what we’re doing and you’re helping us do that.
Kat: It was the easiest thing in the world to say yes to, and I just love that there is this core group in the community and everybody is rising together, and it is the best thing ever.
Shane: All right guys, we’re going to wrap this episode of the Flipped Lifestyle podcast up. I’m so glad that you got to meet our new amazing community manager, Kat Jarman, and if you would like to get in there and get all this help, we have so many people waiting in the Flip Your Life community to help you take your online dreams to the next level. We’re growing every single day.
If you really want to be a part of it, if you want to join tonight, go to flippedlifestyle.com/flipyourlife, and we would love to have you inside the Flip Your Life community. Make sure you tune in next week where we will have another guest on the show, one of our Flip Your Life community members and we will help them on air take their business to the next level and until then, go out there and do everything it takes to flip your life.